i am not trying to be sly or trick you.
these questions are the ones that i would love to ask the elders that occasionally come to visit me.
or satan's (at least sometimes?
You Know:
I hope you understand that by accepting the "apostates creed" and being privy to the secret handshake, I must also keep up a facade of animosity toward you and other JW's who visit here against the advice of the Mothership.
I knew you'd understand!
Drahc
householder: hey, you are the people from that religion that hides pedophiles, aren't you?.
'hovah: whaaa?
hh: yeah, i saw "dateline" the other night on how 'hovahs protect sexual deviants.. 'hovah: well, you can't believe....... hh: no, no, i did some research after watching the show, now the wts is synonymous with corruption, deceit, slander, death, suffering, and the like.. 'hovah: well i uh, don't know about, uh, any problems, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh!.
In the book of "good salesmanship" we are told to take a negative and make it a positive. Even if, on it's face it's a factual negative, magazines can be sold. You have given us a nice demonstration of how it is done. Perhaps you will be asked to have a nice part at the next circuit assembly.
Here's how it would go at my door. . .
WITNESS AND MOUSEY WIFE APPROACH MY DOOR:
HH: Get the fuck off of my property and don't say a word or I'll throw ice water on both of you!
this may have been posted before, but i just saw this.
(i went to the wtbs "official" medai site, and this letter is posted there).
2/7/02 letter to dateline.
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this may have been posted before, but i just saw this.
(i went to the wtbs "official" medai site, and this letter is posted there).
2/7/02 letter to dateline.
That is truly and interesting take in the letter from the WTBTS. How can there be a "difference of opinion" regarding child molesters? Shouldn't everyone, including the governing body be against child molestation? And shouldn't everyone, including the governing body want any serious accusations of child molestation to be dealt with by the authorities in order to protect children and society at large?
Jesus H. Christ what the hell is there a difference of opinion on?
i just wanted to take a moment and thank you for providing this forum.
of course, i realize that it's intended purpose is to serve as a stumbling block for jehovah's witnesses, yet at the same time it also serves as a platform for me to defend my faith in a public forum.
over the years i have appreciated the opportunity provided by this and other forums to confront and refute various challenges that apostates have presented to our precious faith.
You Know:
Just so you WILL know, I reject any judgement from any god and particularly from a cruel god named Jehovah. So by my own circular reasoning, since I reject his judgement, I have no fear of his judgement or him.
i just wanted to take a moment and thank you for providing this forum.
of course, i realize that it's intended purpose is to serve as a stumbling block for jehovah's witnesses, yet at the same time it also serves as a platform for me to defend my faith in a public forum.
over the years i have appreciated the opportunity provided by this and other forums to confront and refute various challenges that apostates have presented to our precious faith.
You Know:
Jehovah must be scratching his head wondering why you would want to endanger your faith by disobeying his "faithful and discreet slave" when they admonish you to NOT visit apostate websites. Obviously you must believe that there is some chance that you would be derailed in your JW beliefs, otherwise claiming victory for not having them derailed is meaningless. In fact aren't you in affect mocking God? Shame on you!
i just wanted to take a moment and thank you for providing this forum.
of course, i realize that it's intended purpose is to serve as a stumbling block for jehovah's witnesses, yet at the same time it also serves as a platform for me to defend my faith in a public forum.
over the years i have appreciated the opportunity provided by this and other forums to confront and refute various challenges that apostates have presented to our precious faith.
It's wonderful when someone declares victory in their arguments. I must have missed the polling that was done in here that indicates that You Know has changed hearts and minds about "his faith".
99.9% of what I read here reflects serious flaws in the beliefs and behaviors of the WTS. So please bring me up to date on your victories. Saying you have won because you say so is circular thinking at it's best.
a person has to be a bit nieve to think that if the wt suddenly gave into all of the demands of silentlambs that silentlambs would somehow cease to exist and or let up their pressure on the society.. i think there is a broader agenda here, one that includes a measure of revenge against the wt and one that won't stop until they are out of business.
no child is truely protected or safe when they are raised in a cult.
a logical extention of silentlambs would be expanding their agenda to include the blood issue and children.. it is this obvious broader agenda the silentlambs group has that invites criticism from active witnesses.
Morrisamb:
If I (personally) agreed with Jehovah's Witnesses I'd say so. If I did, I wouldn't be posting on this website. But whether one does or does not is up the each person. I don't think anyone here is hiding an agenda. And nobody here is trying to brainwash anyone into not becoming a Jehovah's Witness. I (personally) believe great harm is done to many people who become Jehovah's Witnesses, but this is still a free country (USA) and people can believe what they want.
You appear to be of the opinion that expressing a viewpoint locks an agenda onto this site. You are mistaken. I'm fairly apathetic as to whether a person fucks up their life in a religious cult. ANY CULT. My experience was with Jehovah's Witnesses, hence I participate here. I don't know why it is that people like you make me think about shoving my fist through your teeth, but you do. Bye!
a person has to be a bit nieve to think that if the wt suddenly gave into all of the demands of silentlambs that silentlambs would somehow cease to exist and or let up their pressure on the society.. i think there is a broader agenda here, one that includes a measure of revenge against the wt and one that won't stop until they are out of business.
no child is truely protected or safe when they are raised in a cult.
a logical extention of silentlambs would be expanding their agenda to include the blood issue and children.. it is this obvious broader agenda the silentlambs group has that invites criticism from active witnesses.
morrisamb:
I'm absolutely baffled by your response to my post. I in no way attacked you or accused you of having an agenda. This sight has untold examples of people who have a myriad of reasons for no longer being Jehovah's Witnesses. There are some who post here who still are Jehovah's Witnesses and defend them at every turn.
If you are leaving this sight because of what I posted, then don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. I don't even want to guess what your agenda might be. The "group" I was referring to in my post was "Silent Lambs", not this forum. This forum is, last I heard, open to all opinions, for and against the JW's.
a person has to be a bit nieve to think that if the wt suddenly gave into all of the demands of silentlambs that silentlambs would somehow cease to exist and or let up their pressure on the society.. i think there is a broader agenda here, one that includes a measure of revenge against the wt and one that won't stop until they are out of business.
no child is truely protected or safe when they are raised in a cult.
a logical extention of silentlambs would be expanding their agenda to include the blood issue and children.. it is this obvious broader agenda the silentlambs group has that invites criticism from active witnesses.
Criticism of the WTS and it's policies doesn't have to be bundled up into one concise package to be valid.
The Watchtower organization has ruined many lives in so many different ways. For the evidence, one only needs to read the personal experiences posted here almost daily.
Quite frankly, it is irrelevant to me what, if any, the underlying agenda is for any group wishing to call attention to the lies and inconsistencies of the organization. We will all be labeled "apostates" anyway.
If the work of Silent Lambs creates a warning signal in the mind of just one person, who might be persuaded to join the Watchtower cult, then they have served a valuable purpose. If what each of us says in this forum, influences just one person not to ruin their lives by becoming a Watchtower slave then we will have done our good deed for the day.
